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Drive Electric Week and Monthly Meeting Sept 2015

Saturday, September 19th, 2015
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Monthly NTEAA Meeting – Drive Electric Week

Date : Saturday, September 19th, 2015

Time : 10:00 AM – 12:00 PM

Location : Grapevine Mills Mall – Parking lot 2C at the chargers near Neiman Marcus & Saks

Address : 3000 Grapevine Mills Pkwy, Grapevine, TX 76051

Website :

All monthly meetings are free to attend and open to the public and no registration is needed.

Called to order @10:05am

Treasurer’s Report

  • $1222.59
  • (10) present; (1) new attendees

Old Business

  • Paul/Neil/Stanton displayed (new) demo at Perot Museum for “kids weekend” (August 8)

New Business/Projects/Events

  • Would like to add to demo display (lights, brakes, etc.)
  • Stanton delivered EV talk at Dallas MakerSpace Open House (Sept. 12)
  • Motion by Neil to reimburse $50 for J1772 plug on demo display. Seconded by Steve. Motion carried.
  • Beverly Elementary in Plano requested an EV talk October 19 @2:45pm. Either Ron or Stanton will do it.
  • Future meeting ideas:
  1. Tour UTA EV development/lab
  2. Ride E-GoCarts in Arlington (indoor track)
  3. Ride/view E-Trolley (DART) maintenance barn in Uptown Dallas (targeting November)

Today’s Speaker/Program

DFW National Drive Electric Week event at Grapevine Mills Parking lot (10-2). Record setting day with > 400 attendees and >100 EVs with > 2M all-electric miles!

Adjourned @10:20am

Perot Museum Discovery Days and Monthly NTEAA Meeting August 2015

Saturday, August 8th, 2015
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Perot Museum Discovery Days and Monthly NTEAA Meeting

Date : Saturday, August 8th, 2015

Time : 10:00 AM – 4:00 PM  Event Time     Monthly Meeting time 10 AM

Location : Perot Museum

Address : 2201 N. Field Street Dallas, Texas 75201-1704

Website :

All monthly meetings are free to attend and open to the public and no registration is needed.

Called to order @10:05am

Treasurer’s Report

  • $1222.59
  • (5) present; (1) new attendees

Old Business

  • Paul updated the EV mockup/display!

New Business/Projects/Events

  • Would like to add to demo display (lights, brakes, etc.)
  • DFW Solar Tour coming Oct. 3 (details to follow)
  • National Electric Drive Week coming Saturday, September 19 @Grapevine Mills Mall (meet @10am in parking lot 2C)
  • Future meeting ideas:
  1. Tour UTA EV development/lab
  2. Ride/view E-Trolley (DART) maintenance barn in Uptown Dallas (targeting November)

Today’s Speaker/Program

Perot Museum Discovery Day

  • Paul brought our (new) EV demo display
  • Neil brought his car
  • Stanton (and new member) charged for free (as usual)

Adjourned @10:30am


Renewable Energy Roundup & Sustainable Living Expo Road Trip

Monday, September 29th, 2014
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Here is some info & stats on our Road trip to Belton for the Renewable Energy Roundup & Sustainable Living Expo.

 I left my house at 05:36 with a charge of 269 miles


Picked up Mellen & Stephen at 06:17.  Flower Mound to Downtown = 34 miles of battery driving 80MPH (Actual = 27miles.)


Czech Stop in West happened at 07:34.  85 MPH cost us 135 miles (actual = 81miles.)


Hit the Super Charger at 07:50 at Collin Street Bakery.  16 miles but 23 battery miles when driving fast.



Of course we HAD to promote the tour while Super Charging!


And write the date of when the Tour is happening:


If we are going to make the first speaker on time, we need to leave.  We charged for 30 minutes and picked up 103 more miles.  As the battery starts getting full, charging speed is reduced.  We averaged 3.433 miles/minute.  Highest charge we received was 359miles/hour or 5.98 miles/minute.


Now the story gets funny.  I was passed by this Highland Park Diva – in a Mini Cooper?


There are Tesla rules.  This is NOT allowed.  We are already driving fast, but the Service Loaner Tesla gave me for this trip has a regulator.  It is NOT allowed to go over 90MPH.  We passed several Corvettes though:

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But we were unsuccessful in passing this Mini Cooper?  Embarrassing.  Stephen has video of my frustration.

Call this trip very close.  We arrived with 3 minutes to spare.  Miles = 47 from Waco, but driving fast cost us 65 battery miles.


Awesome day, I learned a lot, & loved all the speakers (especially Bill Neukranz & Stephen Blackburn’s.)


Returning we expected our sign and cards we left in the Super Chargers to be gone.  4 of the 8 were, so there were at least 4 Tesla’s charging during the day,


Our sign was still there pointing to DFW!  I love it:


NTEAA Drive Electric Week Sept 2014

Tuesday, September 23rd, 2014
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Steve Blackburn posted his video of NTEAA’s Drive Electric Week.  It shows just about all of the cars that was there promoting Drive Electric Week at NTEAA’s Event.



Earth Day Dallas 2014 And Monthly NTEAA Meeting

Sunday, April 27th, 2014
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Earth Day Dallas 2014 And Monthly NTEAA Meeting

Date : Saturday, April 26th and Sunday, April 27th, 2014

Time : 10:00 AM – 6:00 PM

Location : Fair Park Dallas, Texas

Website :

All monthly meetings are free to attend and open to the public.

We participated in Earth Day Texas at Fair Park in Dallas by showing both EV conversions and production EVs (Leaf plus some Chinese car I don’t remember the name of). Group members took turns answering questions and enjoying the nice weather under the shade of a big Oak tree.

Earth Day was lightly attended by the NTEAA club. We had 4 cars on display on Saturday, and 2 on Sunday. Neal’s VW, Mike’s VW, The Miles NEV, and my new Leaf on Saturday, just me and Neal on Sunday.
Attendance for the event was pretty good, and the test drive of the BMW was awesome. There were 24 Teslas there on Saturday.

Here is a link to a YouTube Video that one of the Tesla owners did of the Earth Day Dallas Event.


With more than 800 exhibits, the Eco Expo provides a public forum for leaders in the corporate, academic, government, and nonprofit worlds to expose Texans to information on hundreds of environmental topics that are pressing, engaging, and actionable.
EDTx and Texas Music Project, a nonprofit supporting music education in Texas schools, are hosting the first EDTx Rising Stars Competition and Music Showcase. Come see local, talented youth perform at EDTx.
Test drive BMW’s new i3 model and experience the way it is redefining sustainable mobility. This industry-changing electric car is innovatively built with sustainable materials.

Monthly Meeting Details:

1.) Call to order

2.) Introductions

3.) Minutes from last meeting

4.) Treasurer’s Report

5.) Old Business

6.) Monthly Activities

7.) Upcoming Events Discussion

8.) Members Projects and Q & A Session

9.) Adjourn


Texas AltCar Expo 2014

Saturday, March 29th, 2014
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Texas AltCar Expo 2014

Date : Saturday, March 29th, 2014

Time : 9:30 AM – 12:00 PM

Location : Irving Convention Center

Address : 500 W. Las Colinas Blvd. Irving, TX 75039

Website :

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Tuesday, August 13th, 2013
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EVCCON 2013 is now history, it was pretty amazing.  Lots of information. Started about 8:30 every day, David and I knocked off at Midnight most days. After the class sessions, most would meet back at the shop to help work on Jack’s cars or someone elses that needed help.


Jack and Brian are great hosts, kept us well fed and hydrated. While at the shop, he had open door on the drink case as well as boxes and boxes of chips / munchies for all.  He left his shop open for anyone needing work/repair or just some experience to come help work on an EV. There was all sorts of activities in there from simple turning of wrenches, balancing packs, installing components and A/C motor controller development.  They even arranged for the temperatures to be unseasonably cool, the max being about 85F.   A nice relief from our 100F days.

EVCON 2013

At EVCCON, I met people from all over the world interested in EVs.  About 1/3rd of the attendees were from out of the US. Anne K. came over from the Netherlands (EVTV Europe), we had Nick Smith and crew up from New Zealand as well as a small contingent from Australia.  In talking with these folks, they have fuel prices from about $6.25 to >$8.00 per gallon. Many of them also had electricity rates in the 30+ cents / KWh (as did California !). That is >3X what I’m paying in Dallas. One of the guys from Montreal was only paying 4.5 cents/KWh because they had hydroelectric generation.  In New Zealand, they were using thermal energy from the volcanos to run steam plants for electricity. Shows the ingenuity of people all over the world.

There were 3 session that still stand out in my experience :

EV CON2013

There was a double session (2.5hrs) on how Lithium Ion batteries work. It was shown how Oxygen is generated once a cell gets too hot, hence the inability of a chemical extinguisher to put out a Lithium Ion Fire (ie, use water). It was also proposed that the addition of Iron (Fe) to the formulation helped control fires. Seems the iron tightly binds the oxygen so that it requires 2x the temperature to liberate it for a fire.  That is why Jack recommends LiFeOn type batteries. The implication was that a LiPo battery, without Iron, will have the oxygen liberated at a lower temp (~150C) which is easier to maintain a self fueling fire and thermal run away.  The 787 Dreamliner fires came up.

As a demonstration, on Friday (“play day” at the airport) a LiFeOn cell was connected to a 12V charger to purposely over charge the battery.  After 2hrs, the LiFeOn battery (yellow ThunderSky) finally got hot enough to start out gassing. The vent popped open and it vented electrolyte. However, it did NOT catch fire, did not explode.  At about 23:10 mark, you can see some footage of this. The case swelled well before any venting.

EVCON 2013
Also, the venting started as a small stream of vapor coming from the vent hole. However, with continued charging (at 12V), it accelerated into this picture below. The 12V was removed before the picture, however the venting continued since no effort to cool the battery was taken. The wires on it were just measuring the cell voltage, which dropped to 1.1x Volts.
EVCON 2013

After this, they put a LiPo battery on the 12V charger. It literally exploded and burned in a fire after about 1 hr.  LiPo batteries are used in the RC hobby industry and they recommend charging outside.  The LiPo blast wasn’t on the video, but with all the cameras there, I expect it to show up at a later date.  The bottom line was that this was a nice demonstration that the principals from the battery session were on track AND that LiFeOn batteries are the best selection for safety/power/weight in our vehicles.

EVCON 2013

Another session I enjoyed was one by Erik Kriss ( where he did a very thorough job of describing how to plan/build an electric car. He showed that in an efficient execution, planning will likely take ~ 50% of the man hours. This may not sound intuitive, but I believe it IS the least expensive and most efficient way to do a conversion.  He showed that with a minimum investment in measurement tools, you could go about planning your conversion on paper.  With that as ground work and a guide, IF you actually proceeded with the conversion, it would take less time, you’d make fewer mistakes and have much fewer surprises.

When/If you found a hiccup in the planning, you could decide BEFORE buying the car/components if it would be cost effective / practical to design around the issue. Otherwise, you could move to another vehicle with only your time invested.  For an example, he did a plan for the Factory Five 818 car. ( That looks to be a very fashionable looking ride and with the drivetrain he selected, it would be very sporty as well.  In his plan, he didn’t use a donor vehicle because he wanted a “new” conversion. So he found / budgeted for new parts.  If you used a donor car, it would have been less expensive, but it means used parts in the conversion.  That is one of the tradeoffs that planning will expose. A very practical and well delivered session.

EVCON 2013

John Metric, a fellow Texan, brought his world record breaking Miata conversion. (1/8 mile @ 5.6 sec) He showed the science in selecting and evaluating components for his race car. He wasn’t just getting a bigger motor and sticking it in the car with bigger batteries. Lots of planning and calculations are going into that ride. I found that his process is well grounded and it was nice to see a scientific approach to building the next faster car. John is president of NEDRA (National Electric Drag Racing Association) and after going to the drag track with the electric cars, I think it would be much more enjoyable since there is no roar of engines out of the electric cars.
EVCON 2013
EVCON 2013
Although not a class session, an activity I found interesting was the running of various cars on the dynamometer. I had never seen one, and it showed the motor torque and HP .  Several different varieties of motors/controller were run, so  you could kind of bracket where you could expect your car to run. The owner started off by running his corvette on the machine. It stunk up the hanger with exhaust and stopped all conversation with its noise. However, I’m sure it made the owner feel like he had the system setup right and the sound was like an announcement to everyone that the dyno was open.  After that, a few electrics were run. In turn the EV West BMW was put on the system, lots of discussion about the torque capability of the dyno.  In the end, the electric beemer out stripped the corvette and I believe set the all time torque record on this guys dyno. I think the dyno crew was surprised.  EV West Beemer on the dyno, before safety straps applied –
EVCON 2013

There was too much other information to comment more other than to say if  you haven’t attended, you should consider putting it on your radar. You do NOT need to bring a conversion there, only about 1 in 5 guys had a conversion there.  On play day, even if you didn’t have a car there, folks were letting other people drive their cars. Including the Tesla’s, Cobra’s, Porches, etc.  They even did drag races with the VW bus and the Transit connect van.

That is the scoop from my shoes,

Mike Harris

EVCON 2013

EVCON 2013

The Buzz on Electric Vehicles

Friday, May 10th, 2013
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The Buzz on Electric Vehicles 

Date : Thursday, May 9th, 2013

Time : 7:00 PM – 8:00 PM

Location : Davis Library – Building B

Address : 7501 Independence Pkwy, Plano TX 75025



Ron presented What’s the Buzz about Electric Vehicles to about 25 people at the Plano Library. It included a brief history of electric vehicles in the US, and what some of the current electric vehicles you can purchase today. Also discussed were the pros and cons of driving all electric.
Paul Schaffer also discussed the design of electric vehicles, using our portable electric vehicle component box.
There were several members of the local EAA chapter in attendance and they had their cars on display outside for the folks to see, after the presentation. There were some excellent discussions in the parking lot.

Saturday April 20th, 2013 Monthly Meeting

Monday, April 22nd, 2013
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Monthly NTEAA Meeting and Earth Day Dallas (at Fair Park)

Date : Saturday, April 20th, 2013 (Monthly NTEAA Meeting)
Time : 10:00 AM – 12:00 PM

Date : Saturday, April 20th – 21st, 2013 (Earth Day Dallas)
Time : 10:00 AM – 6:00 PM (Both Days)

Location : Fair Park

Address : 3809 Grand Ave, Dallas, TX 75210

All monthly meetings are free to attend and open to the public.

Dallas Earth Day Event

Website :


The April 2013 meeting of the North Texas Electric Auto Association was held at Fair Park Dallas during the Dallas Earth Day events.  President Ron Swanson opened the meeting

Old Business:  We still are looking for a home for an outdoor pedestal charging station

New Business: 

Interviews: There were two interviews this month.  One that Neil did with Victoria Hilbert for the Advocate.  She wanted to interview people with electric vehicles from their readership areas.  The other was done by Ron about charging for the local TV station.

Future Meetings: We haven’t heard about the scout show next month.  We will try to meet with the solar airplane when we get the dates.  We also learned that the Marriot in Plano has a meeting room available. The owner drives a Leaf and the Marriot has a couple of GE Watt stations for charging.  The Leaf reunion will be in June and we are thinking of a road trip visit Mike in Bonham in July.

Presentation: Ron will give a presentation titled “What’s the buzz with electric vehicles” at the Plano Library on May 9th at 7:00PM.

Other:   We learned that there are approximately 200 Tesla’s in the DFW area.   Neil is the proud owner of five scooters.  He’s trying to sell one and get the others running and looking good.  Stan has his scooter running and plans on a LiFePo pack.  He still need to install a DC-DC converter but reports it “scoots” along well.

Earth Day At Fair Park:   We had an awesome spot at the end of the fountain near the Dart entrance.  We were able to show three cars and had a booth with the display board in it.  We showed a new 2013 Nissan Leaf, Neil’s converted Golf, and a Tesla Model S.   Very special thanks to Jim Bradbury and Jerry Jorgenson.  Jim brought his brand new 2013 Nissan Leaf and stayed both days to help us and show it to the crowd.   Jerry is a very brave man for bringing his 2013 Tesla model S and letting everyone touch and sit in it.  Jerry and his Tesla was there both days also.  Stan was able to show his electric bike at the booth.  We had great weather and a good crowd so I hope we made some converts.  Lanny Shivers stopped to thank us for being there before we left.  I heard that Trammell S. Crow stopped by also to ask us about the Texas law that forbids Tesla from selling cars in Texas.  All in all a great weekend.



Sunday, November 18th, 2012
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Date : Friday, November 16th, 2012

Time : 10:00 PM Friday to  10:00 AM Saturday

Start Location : Don Herring Mitisubshi in Irving

Start Address : 2901 West Airport Freeway Irving, TX 75062

End Location : Dallas MakerSpace (DMS)

End Address : 2995 Ladybird Lane Dallas, TX 75229 (off Monroe and Walnut Hill)

New network of fast charger provide EV drivers unlimited mileage within Dallas/Ft Worth!

A new network of fast chargers offers electric vehicles unlimited mileage in the Dallas/Ft.Worth  metroplex.  The new level III charging network is capable of charging a properly equipped electric vehicle battery pack to 80% capacity in 20 minutes or less.  There are now 19 of these fast charging stations scattered at convenient locations throughout the Dallas/Ft.Worth area. All Nissan Leaf or Mitsubishi IMev electric vehicles have the option to add a level III charging port required for the network.

Two teams from the North Texas Electric Auto Association (NTEAA) recently took this fast charging network for a “test drive”.   One team drove a Mitsubishi iMev and the other drove a Nissan Leaf.   Each team was given twelve hours to drive their vehicles as far as they could using the fast charging network.

The charging stations are located at Walgreens, Cracker Barrel restaurants, and ironically gas stations.  The stations are well lighted and monitored by video.  The chargers have step by step instructions and are easy to use.  The chargers display the kilowatt hours input to the battery by the charging station mimicking the gallons on a gas pump.  The charging can be terminated at any time by the push of a button if the user determines that sufficient KWH has been transferred.  The charger will automatically terminate when the vehicle battery is 80% charged.

Smart phone applications are available to route you to the nearest station. The teams found that the fast chargers were capable of putting 50 miles of range into the vehicle in 20 minutes or less.  Every charging station visited worked and the teams had no problems connecting and using the chargers.  At the end of the twelve hour test drive, Leaf team came out on top with 390 miles driven in twelve hours.  However, team iMev was close behind driving 361 miles.

This network of fast chargers now gives electric vehicle drivers unlimited range within the Dallas/Ft Worth area.  For more information, check out